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Question Time XVIII – Respect

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This week I want to talk to you about respect. More specifically, the respect we have and show for our fellow bloggers.

A few weeks ago the nominations were announced for the Lammy Awards 2013. Lots of bloggers nominated made a post celebrating and asking their readers for votes in the final stage. It was brought to my attention that one blogger took a slightly different route. I don’t want to advertise their blog, so lets just say that he or she made a long post dissecting every category in the awards. He or she was so enraged he or she wasn’t chosen for ANY category, and decided to show his or her rage by sharing notes on all the blogs and bloggers nominated. Not stopping by just saying he (bored of the he/she game) was much better than everyone nominated, he went further and insulted blogs, mine included.

I’m sure it was just a ploy from an angry little blogger to try and get some attention. I can’t understand why anyone would openly insult so many people, especially fellow LAMB members. I tried to take the mature route and reply politely, but it lead me to this weeks question, and your thoughts on respect within our blogging community.

I’m sure we all rate our own sites and writing highly, and we want to be proud of our output. To see it shot down in public is hard to take, for me anyway. I would never dream of taking a swipe at another blogger. I disagree with a lot of people, mostly reviewers, and I openly invite people to disagree with my thoughts. But it is always done in a friendly and respectful manner. Sure, when I see Chris from filmhipster give another 100%, or Eric from Isaacs Picture Conclusions tell me Genesis is a phenomenal film, I tell them they are wrong but it’s all in jest. I would say we all have disagreed with someones thoughts at some point, and I have never seen any arguments from it, just people disagreeing. I’m not trying to say I should be immune from criticism, of course. I just don’t want to be told I’m a terrible writer (which I may be but I don’t need others posting about it on their blogs!). Or see someone else banded as a poor writer, with a crappy site, or running a crappy feature etc.

Changing away from the troll disguised as a blogger introduction (quote stolen, identity a secret 😉 ), to give another example of respect, I always find it hard not to jump in on a good religious post. I don’t just follow movie bloggers, and sometimes when a blog I read does a huge religious post, I have to bite my proverbial tongue and stop myself sharing my thoughts on religion. To me, this is a respectful choice, as something like religion is a huge deal to people, and I would hate to offend or fall out with a blogger because I disagree with their beliefs. I believe in freedom of speech, and our blogs are soap boxes to say what we want to say. However, going as far as telling someone their beliefs are wrong, or sharing negative comments about other bloggers crosses the line in my opinion. Maybe its just me, and in the same way we give a movie a bad rating, saying negative things about other bloggers is just fair game. I know I shouldn’t rise to it, but it’s hard not to react when someone insults my or other writers I like work.

So, do you always show restraint, or do you just let rip and say what you feel all the time, regardless of potentially insulting another writer? Where do you draw the line respect wise? And what do you think of people getting under your skin by blasting your site and work? Bit more of a rant than anything this week, but I’d love to hear your thoughts on respect within blogging.

If you would like to see all the other questions from this series, please click HERE and check them out!

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  1. Well, I never straight out attack someone, I respect the opinion of others, but do think you can challenge someone on their views by asking questions. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to them and not everyone needs to agree. btw, you do make me wonder which fellow blogger wrote that post about the Lammy awards…

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    • Exactly, of course share an opinion. But when does it go too far? For me, insulting another persons work is over the line.

      I didnt want to send him any traffic as thats what he must be hoping for, but I know a lot of people are pissed about it, after the link got shared round 😉

      Cheers Nostra

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      • Well, it happened on the Dutch version of my site a while ago in the comments. I had to turn on approval because people were disrespectful and decided to do so anonymously…I just deleted those and never responded.

        Hmmm, didn’t see the link but would be interested in reading what this blogger has got to say, but understand you don’t want to give extra traffic….

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      • I have, and do at times, comment on a Bloggers’ work if I find it sucks. But again, I try to do so as constructive criticism, rather than as an insult.

        I remember noticing the improvement in the writing style of CMrok93 from Dan The Man’s Movie Reviews. I told him so, but I also remember teling him when I 1st followed his Blog, that it’s very amateur-ish. Again, I’m no expert, it was just a thought.

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        • Hmmm…….maybe I’m over reacting then as Im not sure how happy Id be if someone told me that. I mean, nobodys perfect but still, keep those thoughts about me away from your keyboard Shah 😉

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    • If you want to message me on twitter/facebook/email I can show you the link. Just dont go giving this guy too many views lol 😉

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  2. Thomas Priday

     /  May 2, 2013

    I never get personal. I have written a few posts (which, ironically, I haven’t posted yet) about the problems of internet blogging, but I’d never name anyone; not that there is one particular person spreading these problems. I have been fortunate enough to avoid any hatred on my blog — probably because I’m a very small bloggers — so I can’t comment on that.

    At the end of the day, we are a small community; we should debate, definitely, but not fight on a personal level, like this unnamed person seemed to have been doing with you.

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    • Good to hear you wouldnt name anyone either. Too personal, and just insulting. Other bloggers got it worse than I did, but even so it does not set a good impression for your site when you share hateful posts.

      Cheers Thomas, and I look forward to yours going up if and when 🙂

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  3. I’m inclined to agree with your assessment of this particular component of blogging. Well said. You’ve used your particular soap box in an attempt to create balance. You make a good wordsmith. I enjoyed your wrath & find you fair-minded. Now if the villain will only take heed…

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    • I tried to do this maturely and remain fair……although I wanted to put a huge rant in about how crap his site is but I refrained 😉

      Cheers Marc, glad to see your in agreement, and yeah I hope this gets through to someone that disrespecting other bloggers is maybe not the way to receive votes from your peers.

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  4. Great post – a point that’s well worth raising. I don’t have a clue which blogger you’re specifically talking about here but there’s a clear line between politely disagreeing with a blog and outright abuse. I love films and so read and comment on quite a few film blogs… I’m also pretty opinionated and so often disagree with reviews… and I usually feel bad when I do that because I don’t want to offend the blogger! But I’m never abusive or personal… obviously. It would never even occur to me to be. The point you raise about issues such as religion is an interesting one – like you, I tend to hold my tongue with that sort of thing unless it’s a blog that’s clearly inviting an open debate.

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    • Same as me, I disagree a lot and will always tell the reviewer for example I disagree and why, but sharing an opinion and backing it up but remaining polite is what I strive for. Would never insult anyone, and I’m always happy for someone to disagree with my rating. Tell me I’m a shitty writer and I will go for you though 😉

      I mentioned religion purely as the first example that is controversial, and nice to see you’re in the same boat. Debate is fine, but religion can soon turn nasty and I find it easier to keep away in most cases.

      Cheers buddy 🙂

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  5. cinemasamurai

     /  May 2, 2013

    I’d name you Tyson, you bastard! (Just Kidding) Only being a new member of the community (Not eligible for the lambs yet) I can only really say i’ve been treated well from fellow film bloggers to be honest, those who have stopped by, such as yourself, Misty, Tim. I wasn’t exactly surprised there are people like this here too though.

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    • LOL – I am a bastard you’re right!!

      Love your work, and its always great to find new blogs to read. Dont turn into an arsehole and your own community will continue to grow. Cheers buddy 🙂

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      • cinemasamurai

         /  May 2, 2013

        Don’t worry, I’ll lure you in, then I’ll just turn into a synical bastard who pans everything and everyone after a few more months =P

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  6. Great thought provoking post mate. (Which I am reblogging btw) Interesting on a lot of levels as well. I am not a member of LAMB (or is it LAMMY?) I assumed that you had to ask to join. I am not a real “joiner” of anything so I’m not bothered either way. LOL But to openly diss other folks blog’s is beyond crass and/or tacky. If I don’t agree with a post I’m reading, I stop reading it. End of story. Sometimes I will comment with what I hope is a humorous comment.

    Good question time question!

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    • With regards to the LAMB, you just submit your blog and they will accept you (hopefully!) if you ever wanted to get in on the action. Nice to see you are in agreement with this post though. As you say, it’s easy to stop reading, or not comment. But the effort involved to make a huge deal about telling people why your site is better than all the rest really got under my skin. Got to show respect!! 🙂

      Cheers Mike

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  7. Reblogged this on MikesFilmTalk and commented:
    Good stuff from Tyson, as usual!

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  8. Wow, can’t believe that someone would go as far to actually name blogs they don’t like and why. That’s just so petty. I’d love to give it a read though if you’d like to drop us a link on Twitter or something. I will disagree with someone’s opinion without a second thought but I would always try and be respectful when doing it and would never get personal. Fortunately, I haven’t come across any negativity on my blog, everyone who comments has been brilliant and really polite and respectful to my opinion. Some people obviously have a hugely inflated sense of self worth. Sad really.

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    • Yeah, I was surprised (as I know were others, plus pissed off) but it leads to this discussion so I’m glad I’m not alone. I’ll send you the link, although he actually liked you……..probably one of your readers you got to do it 🙂

      Even when I disagree with you, I’d tell you politely or invite you into a Face Off (soon!!). Glad you dont have any issues, I havent until this. I like that though, your comment wrapping it up:

      hugely inflated sense of self worth

      Sums it up perfectly. Cheers Chris 🙂

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      • Well they can’t be all bad if they like me then! 😉 Knew those blank cheques would pay off! It’s just that we all do this as a bit of fun, as a hobby, so we should be supporting each other. Our blogs are nothing without our readers and commenters etc, so it makes no sense in rubbing them up the wrong way. If I hadn’t been nominated for any LAMMYS then I might have been a bit disheartened but I wouldn’t go attacking others.

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        • Lol – yeah money well spent!

          Thats it, great to support other bloggers and without the interaction, surely its an empty little blogging world?

          I was a little annoyed I missed out in certain LAMB categories at first, but then I would never say something negative about others, as I want votes for next year! 🙂

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  9. Point well made at a crucial point sir. I’m aware of this post and blogger you speak of and have to say that I wasn’t overly offended personally, but I was offended at the vitriol towards some others. At the end of the day, everyone’s entitled to their opinion but posts that direspecting others is only harming his own chances at creating any form of a welcoming community for himself. It’s his loss, really.
    Sometimes I can be a peeved with some people’s politics and occasionally I can be a bit snappy with my response but I don’t mean any disrespect to the blogger.
    I would say that YOU are practically wrong all the time though and I get offended by your choice of films. Stop it at once! And agree with me always! From this moment onwards, I demand that you ask my permission before you post anything. You have a new supervisor and cheif editor on your site from this moment on. I demand results! 😉

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    • Yeah, you weren’t too slated in his thoughts, got away lightly. I could of given him loads of extra shit to say about you 😉

      You sum it up perfectly; all entitled to an opinion, but why stop yourself creating a community. In his own words he hates community. Why do it then? Never seen you be disrespectful though 🙂

      I will of course change how I do things here, and Im happy you have accepted the unoffered position of chief editor. I will only review Scottish films, ideally starring Robert Carlyle or James McAvoy. That suit you sir? 😉

      Cheers Mark!

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      • Haha! You have too much dirt on me Carter. That’s why I’m very surprised that you’re falling into line so easily. Scottish reviews only from now on in. I’ll give you some slack, though. As long as it contains at least one Scot in the cast and crew, you’re allowed to post. I await your results young fellow. Remember… I’m watching you! 😉

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        • At least one Scot? Easy enough…although probably not many in the American horror films I watch, but I’ll try 😉

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  10. For me blogging is all about mutual respect. Without this – there is no community. I may not agree with some people’s opinions (and I’m always up for a good vigorous healthy debate) – but I’d never make it personal. Sorry to hear this has happened TC. But, as usual – you’ve handled yourself with consummate dignity and grace. 🙂

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    • Mutual respect is key really. Healthy debate is great fun, but getting personal is just a step too far. Glad to see your in agreement Greg, and you liked LOVE so you will never do bad in my books!

      Haha, I try but I had to delete the link and my initial comments, I wanted to go to town on him but figured thats what he wants. Plus people got it much worse than me so hoping they say their thoughts in this section! 😉

      Cheers Greg

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  11. I always try to be respectful even on a crap blog like this one 😉 Just kidding

    Each person is entitled to their own opinion. When I was slammed on a post that I did, I just didn’t bother replying to it. But when this same person had a go at someone else for her comment, I wouldn’t accept that. If someone does a post which gets my goat, I stop reading and move on.

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    • Oh, it’s like that now is it Alastair? I see…… 😉

      I wanted to ignore this one, but I replied in a dignified manner (much to my annoyance). I have unfollowed a few blogs (yours now) that have had homophobic insults, or religious rants etc rather than join in. Easiest way sometimes. But not everyone is as respectful as you or I.

      Thanks for your thoughts buddy 🙂

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  12. Awesome Question this time around Tyson.
    I’ve always thought that you can disagree with anything, (religion included) but do so respectfully. I actually think that respectful disagreement or arguments are actually better, given that mediocre points presented with respect seem a lot more valid than better points made in an angry rage.

    For me: I have no limits. I will comment on anything where I have something to say. However, that is never an insulting comment. I don’t see a point in commenting JUST because you don’t like something. It’s the internet. Don’t hit ‘like’, and close the window. Simple. However, if you didn’t like it for a specific reason, (incorrect facts, the poster has a bias, the content is offensive to you or others) I see nothing wrong in stating that, respectfully. in fact, I think it’s just as bad to NOT comment if you have something to contribute to the conversation, (as the Blogging community is based on sharing thoughts and feedback, even if contradictory to each others’) as it is to spread hate unnecessarily. It’s not to tear the person or post down, but it’s presenting a perspective that may not have been considered or thought of by the Blogger. If he/she chooses to get offended by what you had to say, that’s their prerogative.

    Basically, I feel like I can say whatever I want (within reason) in a respectable manner, that isn’t slander, insult, discriminatory or most importantly, inflammatory… as long as I make it clear that it’s my opinion. I consider it a success of the Blogging community if any post encourages intellectual arguments which are conducted with respect, even if the viewpoints don’t correlate or agree with one another.

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    • Fantastic comment Shah, thanks buddy.

      I’m all for disagreements and I know me and you don’t always agree on films etc. As long as things stay respectful I don’t mind people posting what they like on here, whether they agree with or not. But if tomorrow I wrote a post saying what a shitty amateur writer Shah is and I hate his blog, I imagine you may well have something to say on that?! Of course I dont think those things, but thats where this post stemmed from.

      Opinions cannot be wrong. But sometimes angry posts online dont come across in the manner intended. Maybe I overreacted with the guys post. Maybe I didnt. But I tried to make something respectful and informative out of it with this post, and its had lots of great insight from people so far. Conversations are the best reward from doing this blogging thing, and as long as it doesnt resort to name calling then its a great thing. Thanks again for sharing, always appreciated 🙂

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      • I would LOVE IT if you singled me out, regardless of negative or positive. With the amount of traffic you get… it would do wonders for my Blogging career. As long as you linked my shit! I’ll get the ball rolling– Your font style makes you seem pretentious. There! 😀

        But seriously, I don’t think you over reacted. This is exactly the kind of post I expect from a community builder such as yourself. If there’s any criticism I have about you and or your site, it’s that I would like to see more Movie Reviews by you personally. But then again, if the only bad thing I can say about your Blog is that you have TOO MANY unique features, guest reviewers, etc… then that’s probably not a bad thing at all. :p Oh also, sometimes you ramble… and I think I also mentioned that you to before as well.But after you explained, I understood that, like you said here as well, that you don’t want to be misunderstood which is why you do that. Which makes perfect sense.

        I think differing opinions presented respectfully is fine. When it deteriorates to personal attacks, name calling is when those people become stupid dumbasses. Oh wait–

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        • This wasn’t an open invitation to call me pretentious and tell me I ramble! And hey, it can’t be bad you want more reviews! You know, I’ve toyed with the idea of doing more posts per day, I just worry some would get no love or views……..maybe one day. Now, what other insults did you say……oh yeah….FUCK YOU 😉

          There was me excited to share your next IMDB review, maybe I’ll find someone else now. Those people on WhatCulture were right about you 😉

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  13. Unfortunately, this is a thing. In extreme cases there are blogging communities, such as the parenting blogs, where people have set up whole sites dedicated to talking about bloggers they don’t like. The rationale is that you don’t go to someone’s site and flame them, you do it on your own site or on a site that is made for the purpose of offering feedback, especially because many bloggers start removing any comments that have a dissenting opinion. Because parenting blogs can be so lucrative (just using parenting blogs as an example), readers feel that they are consumers of a product and have the right to express an opinion, however negative. Knowing that this type of “calling people out” is going on, and has been for years, in other blogging niches, it makes me disappointed, but not surprised, that it would make its way here. It’s not as if movie review blogs stand to make tens of thousands a month in sponsorships the way lifestyle blogs, for example, do, so it’s hard to say what would be a good motivation for calling people out in the movie blogging world because you don’t agree with their level of popularity. It’s not as if creating a controversy, and therefore driving up pageview$, is going to make that much difference when most movie bloggers get about a penny per thousand impressions if they have ads.

    You know that I am a regular reader of your blog, so obviously I like what you are doing, and I don’t suppose you would be championing the other blogs this person has criticized if they were not up to the same standards as your blog. But often one does find blogs that are poorly-written, or which are just not one’s cup of tea (glaring difference in opinion, personality conflict) which get popular seemingly just because the blogger knows how to network. One wants there to be a community, but one also wants quality material to read, and it can be frustrating when you have favorite blogs that have almost no readers. Sometimes it’s clear an overlooked blog is into putting out quality content but is not into playing the networking game. I have a few favorites that are like this. I’m sure these writers wonder why nobody reads their blogs (which means that they eventually just stop blogging), when they sit quietly and put out great work, because we’ve been told over and over by successful bloggers that blogging is an if-you-build-it-they-will-come enterprise.

    TL; DR I understand what the offending blogger may be feeling, but I disagree with his way of reacting to it.

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    • Superb response Erin, thankyou! 🙂

      I’m always normally in the ‘if you can’t say something nice, dont say anything’ camp, and whilst I will happily disagree with another bloggers thoughts, I would never make a post openly criticising their work as such.

      Lots of blogs I read are run by better writers than me but have no interaction really. I put that mostly down to luck. I dont feel its like a competition, and just read and interact with people whose writing I enjoy. There are also many more popular blogs, but I would never write a post bashing them and saying what a travesty it is they got more awards than me. I mean, whats the point? You’re spot on though; whilst you can see what they are trying to do, the method of execution is wrong. My whole point is really about the right way to do something, if there is such a thing. Maybe brutal honesty is the way to go, but it wouldnt be the way I’d choose.

      Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts, and for reading 🙂

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  14. GaryLee828

     /  May 2, 2013

    My favorite blogs are the ones who back their opinions and will debate you about the topic-at-hand. I live for debates (I may be slightly exaggerating) and so when I have an opinion I will let it be known with fervor and passion – but the minute it becomes personal and you start hurling insults and veer off-track then it becomes annoying, immature and stressful, and seems pointless to continue interacting. I like to joke a lot, and at times poke fun about things people say, but I keep it light-hearted and don’t dish out personal insults. I’m much more fascinated with the concept of persuasion than belittling. I love to attempt to persuade one to agree with my view, or at least see the validity in my view, (and I also am always open to one persuading me to agree with their view) but there’s absolutely no fulfillment in verbal assault. It’s a lose/lose predicament.

    I love the show “First Take” on ESPN2 where Stephen A. Smith & Skip Bayless debate and sometimes they get really heated, and they playfully insult each other at times, but you can tell it’s in a playful manner even when they fully disagree. But those guys have a serious bromance! LOL. They wouldn’t know what to do without each other! lol. And those to me are the best kinds of friendships where you can debate in fun and even playfully exchange verbal jabs, but do so in fun and love.

    Check out a clip of FIRST TAKE and see what I mean; like their slogan says “Embrace Debate”. 🙂

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    • Embracing debate is good!! I like the clip dude 🙂

      Debates are great, hell I even run a Face Off project which encourages arguments between 4/6 people and they never resort to petty name calling and insults. I look forward to disagreeing with you and Eric aka Big Sexy over Hidden Face. Yet we may agree 🙂

      Cheers Gary

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  15. Yeah, a lot have people have already said it, but there’s definitely a place for disagreement (I mean, we wouldn’t be putting our views on films out there in public if we didn’t want to have a discussion), but, as with anything, it’s important to not be a d1ck about it. I have real problems with, oh I don’t know, Tarantino’s Inglourious Basterds for example, but if someone thinks it’s a masterpiece, then I’m not going to come along and say, “hey you’re an idiot and I hate you and everything you stand for”. I might, if I feel moved, raise the issues I had with the film, but hopefully not in an attacking way. After all, if someone has written a thoughtful post outlining their views on a film, then it’s important to respond with respect; if someone has just written a nasty little screed without any thought or compassion, then I find it easier just to stop reading them, because I don’t want to be dragged down into that, if that makes sense. (And yes, don’t link to anyone who’s being that mean!)

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    • Cheers Ewan.

      Exactly right, we are open for debate and disagreement but there is a step too far. We all put a lot of effort into our work, and whilst we may not agree with a review for example, voicing our opinions maturely is all part of it. Otherwise we may as well go hang out on the IMDB forums.

      And Inglorious Basterds? Really? 🙂

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      • Ha I should check out the IMDB forums some time. I’m sure there must be some interesting opinions there. And yes, I have Strong Feelings about Inglourious, but the least it deserves would be a blog post of its own, so I’ll just stay silent here 😉

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        • I dont comment on them, but reading them is entertaining for sure. God forbid you disagree with people on there!

          I will one day review Basterds so look forward to your views. 🙂

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    • My God! I hate you and everything you stand for!! (you should’ve seen this coming)

      But in all serious-ness: You mentioned the best thing behind the whole purpose of Blogging.
      “I mean, we wouldn’t be putting our views on films out there in public if we didn’t want to have a discussion”

      People just have to realize that ‘discussion’ isn’t always going to be ‘You’re awesome!’ kinds of comments. And learn to take the other type in stride without kavetching about it.

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      • Of course, and people telling me why the film I love is a piece of shit is encouraged, as long as it all stays friendly-ish!

        I will try and learn how to take your insults without moaning too much Shah 🙂

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  16. kloipy

     /  May 2, 2013

    someone seriously got that mad about not getting nominated? what a jackass.

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    • Yep. Not the best way to get votes for next year really is it? 🙂

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      • kloipy

         /  May 2, 2013

        not a good way to get anyone to go to your site again. Now I’m curious if I know this person

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        • Exactly, I won’t be going back. I had never been before, only thanks to another blogger I found it. Quite a new site, no one else really seems to have heard of him so I doubt it mate.

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  17. To my knowledge I’ve never attacked anyone. Why would I? Most of the blogs I read are movie blogs and we’re all sharing our opinions. It seems kind of childish not to be able to accept and respect that. As far as respect goes, we also should respect other people’s material and not swipe it (Something that happened to me recently from a pretty prominent fellow LAMB). I mean we’re all trying to put up entertaining content and when someone comes up with something a little interesting we should respect it as theirs! Again, respect.

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    • Spot on Keith. Just seems so un-natural to say something so brazenly and negative about another site, I mean, whats the point? Other than annoying them into never reading your stuff again.

      That sucks about your swiping situation dude 😦 Apparently 3 or so years ago someone else did a Desert Island project too………but they quit with only a handful of entries. I was not aware of this until about 40 entries on mine. Pure coincidence, we both took it from the BBC show but mine was different enough anyway. Still, so hard to find something unique, but if people are blatantly copying then yeah its not good.

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  18. Paul

     /  May 2, 2013

    A fantastic write up here man. Really enjoyed reading it. As for me, I try to show as much restrain as I can when people share different opinions to me. I like to think that everyone is different and something that I like might not be to the taste of someone else and vice versa. As for people shitting over my writing, sure, it would get to me, but like I said, thats their opinion and even if some don’t like how I write and what I write about, there’ll always be others that do and I take comfort in that.

    Again, excellent post brother!

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    • Nice way to look at it Paul, about at least others like it. I’m too shallow and hate any criticism! Especially when I feel its undeserving……but we all work differently and maybe venting publicly about other sites is the future! 😉

      I love people disagreeing with my reviews though, part of the fun. Thanks for joining in Paul, always appreciated my friend. Cheers 🙂

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      • Paul

         /  May 2, 2013

        When it comes to criticism, I think that there’s always going to be critics, but I just try and focus on writing to the best of my ability and making my writing fun for the people that visit my blog regularly because at the end of the day, they’re the people that matter.
        No problem buddy, it’s always fun to join in and have a good discussion about the things we enjoy.

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        • Sure, we all make mistakes or say something people may not like. As long as we do the best we can do, it’s all that really matters. Just sometimes hard not to feed the trolls!

          I do love a good discussion, and I’m so glad I started this series. Lots of good has come from it 🙂

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  19. Tyson, I can tell and I think you’ve admitted a few times to not being able to take too much criticism well. However, the fact that you haven’t ever lashed out at anyone, proves that you can already handle people talking shit about you very well.

    Besides, my insults are just blatant revelations into my own insecurities being projected onto others. You popular guy you! 😦

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    • I don’t believe ANYONE who says criticism doesnt affect them. I find joking about it as much as I can deflects it a little, but of course it stings. I try not to lash out, because whats the point? But, no one is perfect, and we could all list faults with each other I’m sure. Yet we don’t, as thats not nice or respectful. Hence this post. Will it affect how I write? No of course not. I’ve been told bits by people before, like I’ll use a certain word too much for example, so I make an effort to avoid it. But if you step over the line then I feel I have a right to be hacked off and hurt. As would we all.

      I’d love to have no readers like you then no one would see my shitty pretentious rambles 😉 J/K x

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  20. jmount43

     /  May 2, 2013

    I wasn’t nominated for anything either, Tyson. Was I disappointed? Yeah, a little. But you know what? That’s life. I just try to put out the best blog I can put out. I’m working on getting a new design set up because I hate the one I have now. I’m not sure where I’m going with except to say that there may have been several reasons why I wasn’t picked. Does that mean I’m going to pick apart each and every blogger that was picked? Hell no. I’m proud of every one that was picked. I’m rambling but I hope you get my point. I hope everyone gets my point.

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    • And you do fantastic work John. I know you were disappointed, but you kept your class and dignity. Respect. Sums this post up really. I get your point, and really appreciate you commenting. Next year man, always next year 🙂

      Look forward to seeing your new design.

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      • jmount43

         /  May 2, 2013

        I’m getting to work on it right now, man!! 😀

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        • Good stuff, hope you do it quicker than I did mine. Took months for me to be happy with my new look 🙂

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  21. Man, great post. It’s awesome seeing someone actually thinking about respect and others, rather than only themselves. The way I see it, I don’t comment on a post unless I have a) something nice to say, or b) a polite criticism, which, I’ve done all of like, twice. I love having good discussions with other bloggers on things I care about, but there is a line that can be crossed when someone puts their ego and pride into the mix.

    Keep doing what you’re doing Tyson! 😀

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    • Discussions are great, but you’re right, there is definitely a line, its just in different places for some people. Appreciate the comment William, as always. And right back at you, keep up the good work! This is the reason I didnt comment on your Star Wars posts, same as religion to me. Dont like the films so never want to voice that opinion…….ooops I’ve said too much 😉

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  22. Oooh… that stung a little! LOL.
    FYI: Having few readers enables me to overuse the word ‘awesome’ with little to no consequences. 😉

    I agree. All of us check our Blog stats after a particularly post that we’ve been invested in. It’s only natural. I guess I’m not too bothered by criticism considering that I know where I stand, regarding my thoughts and opinions. When it comes to criticism about my writing ability or style, again I’m not too affected, considering that I’m probably my worst critic. So nothing anyone can say about my shortcomings that I don’t already know. (this is not an invitation!)

    I really have to watch what doors I walk through with you when commenting.

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    • I never know when your complimenting me or insulting me. Do I say the word awesome a lot? What is this doors comment about? Lol, your messing with my mind today man.

      I would never even notice anyones shortcomings or whatever. Everyone writes with a different style. I know I mess up to/too and things like that. My weakness is Im dyslexic so every post takes me a fucking age to write and proof read and I still miss loads of stuff. Everyone is unique, and thats great 🙂

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  23. Some people are douchebags, and they don’t even realize it.

    That being said, in June I’m dedicating the whole month to ripping apart every single post written on The IPC.

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  24. Now you’re raiding my curiosity. I have no idea of which blog that was; it can’t be anyone I follow closely. But I’d like to know what nasty things they have to say about me. So now I’m debating with myself whether I should make an effort and try to search it out or not. Even if it’s not nice to hear people talk badly about you, you’d rather know what it is than just hear the rumours about it.

    My blogging ethics follow the Wil Wheaton philosophy: “Be calm and don’t be a dick”. It gets you a long way.

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    • The people who bore the brunt of it know, so I wouldnt worry. Hearing about it or seeing it, still sucks 😦

      I like your philosophy. Mine would be Eminems:

      If you ain’t got nothing nice to say then don’t say nothing!

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  25. Abbi

     /  May 2, 2013

    I have had people leave some very bizarre and angry comments on my blog when they’ve disagreed with my gig reviews and my first thought has always been, “What makes you care enough about my opinion to actually feel the need to make a comment about it?” With that in mind, I generally approach blog comments with the idea that if you don’t have anything nice to say… just don’t put the energy into even making a comment. That said I will happily tell someone I have a different opinion to them and I don’t mind anyone telling me they loved a film I hated and I just don’t get it. Getting personal is so counterproductive though. I just don’t think you get anything out of it.

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    • Nothing wrong with that, with regards to voicing your thoughts on a movie for instance. I’ve told many people their favourite Star Wars film is wasted on me! Counterproductive is spot on, what positives can be gained from personal remarks? None I can think of 🙂

      Thanks Abbi

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  26. Kerry Fristoe

     /  May 2, 2013

    I didn’t read all the comments so I’m sure I’m repeating someone’s thoughts. I don’t have a blog…yet, but it’s always been my opinion that I wouldn’t say anything online that I wouldn’t say to a person’s face. I have no problem with disagreeing or being disagreed with respectfully. I do have a problem with nastiness. You didn’t win. Too bad. Try harder next year. Read the blogs that won and try to figure out what they did right. Move on. Bitter comments and snarkiness get you nowhere. I think your blog is original and fun and I despise anyone who disagrees with me. (haha)

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    • Respectfully is key, we cant always agree but we can voice our thoughts. Some great advice your giving out there Kerry, and thanks for stopping by (and the kind words, obviously!) 🙂

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  27. Wow, I’m so disappointed that this happened to you Tyson, as well as other bloggers. It’s unfathomable to me that someone would spend that much time and effort tearing down others instead of working hard and making improvements to their own blog in the hopes of maybe getting a nod in the Lammys next year. That seems like the more logical thing to do in my opinion anyway. Tearing others down will get you nowhere. Hard-work and perseverance can open doors.
    Although I don’t write a movie blog myself, I love reading them. I love movies and I love reading what people have to say about them. Participating in your Desert Island Films feature was an amazing experience, and it has connected me with other movie blogs that I love to read regularly now too. I have no doubt that you deserved every nomination you got. F#@% those dicks that try to say otherwise!
    That being said, I like to be as respectful as possible of my fellow bloggers. If I can add something meaningful to the conversation than I will. If I completely disagree with someone or think their writing is total shit, I’ll just move on silently. If all of our writing styles and techniques were the same, then reading would be boring as hell. I think the nest practice is to just live and let live. To all the potential blogger trolls out there: Do your thing, take pleasure and pride in it, share it with others. But don’t start shitting on other people because of your personal disappointments.

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    • Hey, its all good when it results in something as productive as this post has been. I dont mind disagreeing as such, but I would try and do it politely if possible. Would never tell someone they were shit, even if I thought they were. Liking what you’ve said there, advice for trolls 🙂

      Great to hear the desert island connected you with other bloggers, that’s precisely what I hope would happen when sharing those posts. Thanks Smash 🙂

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  28. lol, *best practice not nest practice!

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  29. I’m all for a difference of opinion, but equally respecting the divergence. The type of disrespect you noted is counterproductive, as Abbi said. But, it’s an attention getter, isn’t it?

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    • Attention in the form of those disrespected checking it out, yeah for sure. But will those people ever go back? Not this guy. Thanks Michael 🙂

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      • Agreed, you shouldn’t. He/she… they, whatever, followed ‘Cutting off the nose to spite the face’ scheme. That always works so very well ;-).

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        • It’s one tactic I’m willing to stay away from. I wont resort to berating other bloggers. Until I dont win a Lammy, then I’ll start 🙂

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  30. Respect is necessary within the community, but also in the world in general. I think we’ve all had people leave less that respectful comments on our pages. I often encourage the comments of those who disagree with my reviews (it helps everyone to see multiple angles), but the respect that was not paid via the post you mentioned is not the best way to go about sharing and showing respect. I do think that respect goes a long way and should.

    It’s just the right thing to do. I show less restraint, however, when someone disrespects me on my own blog, which also has happened. and I agree with Abbi: ‘getting personal is so counterproductive’

    good question and I applaud you for posting this one!

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    • I’ve not had it on my own blog yet (except Shah above baiting me!) 😉 but I imagine I would react in the same way you do. I agree, people should act with respect both blogging and in real life. Abbi was spot on I agree.

      Thanks buddy, loving the response and really informative 🙂

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  31. theipc

     /  May 2, 2013

    Hustler, I’ve never really had any negativity on my site (except once or twice). I think, in general, we’ve built a nice little core of goodness and friends that respect each other (except for Brian) (I don’t know why he hates me so much – I’ve never been anything but nice to him). I know you and I disagree on EVERYTHING but that’s what makes us individuals and good friends. If we couldn’t argue about shit then where would we be???

    Now – what can we fucking do about Brian?????

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    • WELCOME TO SUE CITY! POPULATION: TWO!! (You and Sue, who’s kind of like the town secretary, she takes care of all the mail and stuff.)

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    • I know Big Sexy, and I havent here either. If I wasnt made aware of that post I would be none the wiser. There are probably hundreds of people trash talking me but I have no idea!

      I love disagreeing with you, it makes the times we agree that much more special.

      As for Brian, I dont know. Ive tried sticking him on an island but he keeps escaping, 🙂

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  32. What he said was douche city in my opinion, and you weren’t the only one he had bad things to say about. But the biggest thing that pissed me off was him dissing Community Building.

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    • Oh and great article my friend…way to bring this topic up.

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    • Nope, some got it worse, and even if I didnt know those people trashed I’d be hacked off. How can people dismiss community building? Why would you NOT want people to visit and talk to you? But yet still want awards? Mental. Douche City indeed 🙂

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  33. Wordschat

     /  May 2, 2013

    These negative ninnies are just that. While I’m off the blog but not far from Facebook and Twitter these twits exist there too. Most opinions are not outright wrong except hate crime and personal liable. It just a movie review or op-ed piece. Different ideas are welcome. These people take it too personally and need to get a life and stop being bullies.

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    • Different ideas are welcome, agree totally. People do go too far and take things far too personally. We all strive to be the best and have awards and people reading (to some degree) but I imagine not many would deride others on their way. Thanks for dropping by my friend, keep on rocking! 🙂

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  34. I think anything (religion included) is fair game for criticism provided the criticism is done respectfully. For example, there are a significant number of people in the Muslim religion who think suicide bombing is perfectly acceptable. I’m not going to give them a pass because their religion is involved (and yes, I do realize not all Muslims agree with them). Sometimes, if it’s a choice between remaining silent and speaking a truth which some might find offensive, it is better to speak the truth.

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    • I mean, your talking of an extreme example lol, but I see what you’re saying. Although your truth may not be someone elses…….religion is messed up and I keep clear unless people are actively looking for opinions then I’ll jump in. Unless the truth is clear cut I dont know if I would say it if I knew it would cause offence. I would most likely steer clear. Unless they want constructive criticism.

      Thanks for your input buddy, different perspective but brutal honesty is your way and I appreciate what youre saying. 🙂

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  35. There’s a fine line between disagreeing with someone’s opinion of a movie (an entirely subjective thing, by the way), and declaring their opinion as “wrong”, as though this or that movie is absolutely and entirely perfect or terrible, and if you disagree then you’re a fool and wrong and not worthy to be listened to. I think we all started blogging about movies because we love movies, love talking about them, love comparing them, etc. When we get flat out angry about things like this, it’s time to take a step back.
    Good write up Tyson.

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    • Totally subjective of course, hence why people should voice their thoughts but never tell people they are wrong, as we’re not, I mean your opinion is never wrong. Just those people that wont back down and get personal. Exactly right about the movie chat, thats the best thing, learning about movies and talking about them with people equally as passionate. Whats not to like?!

      Thanks for the comment Gene, much appreciated buddy 🙂

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  36. The fact that some folks take to the internet to blast others is disgraceful. Having my own site, I know what goes in to keep it current and no matter how big or small the site is, it’s not easy. So for people to degrade that hard work by saying the site sucks, or the writing sucks is just bad form. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That’s the one thing that every human being can say is theirs and theirs alone. But that’s the thing; opinions are like assholes….everyone has one and everyone thinks that everyone else’s stink. It’s a crude analogy, but it’s true. There is a way to disagree tactfully but unfortunately there are those that either take advantage of the internet’s anonymity, or suffer from such a ridiculously large superiority complex that they purposefully cut others down. I wouldn’t be surprised if these folks also suffer from some severe self esteem issues as well.

    What kills me the most is when someone may not like a beloved film that everyone else adores. I’ve made it known in the comments on a few posts over at 3Guys that I didn’t care for the film Drive. The guys over there loved it. I would never even think to tell them that their argument over the film’s merits is invalid. I respect their opinion and instead of trying to make them see my point of view on not liking it, I’m trying to see what they saw in the film instead. The internet would be a much nicer place to play if we all did that.

    I won’t lie….I read things that piss me off to no end. But I take a breath and sometimes yeah, I have to bite my tongue. It’s not my place to cut someone down because I don’t agree with them. That just invites too much negativity and this girl doesn’t play that way.

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    • Thanks for dropping by Tracy. I wanted to stop reading when you said you didn’t like Drive, but I kept going as you make so many good points! A few of us on here got together and argued over Drive, for and against. Luckily the lovers of the film won, but my point is you are not alone! And discussion about films like that is always good fun, as long as it doesnt go too far. Great comment, and you hit the nail on the head with the ridiculously large superiority complex bit. Sums up certain people perfectly.

      Cheers 🙂

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      • I’ll be honest and say that I was nervous to admit my dislike for Drive because I figured I’d get crucified, but alas, I didn’t. I have told those guys that I’ll give it another go just to see if maybe my opinion will change. A second chance viewing if you will. I plan to do the same thing with Sunshine since I’ve heard nothing but praise and that was another I didn’t like. This is a great topic btw…..from all the comments I’ve read, we are all of like mind on this topic.

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        • If you’re ever interested in more thoughts (good and bad) on Drive, feel free to check out our big battle over it on the FACE OFF page above or on the left. Dont want to force my articles on people though, apologies! 🙂

          I’ve never seen Sunshine, although like you I always hear good things about it.

          Thanks, so nice to see so many people sharing and agreeing for the most part 🙂

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  37. Respect is a big thing anywhere. I understand people have criticism but then I mean if other bloggers start bashing others sites because they didn’t get a nomination, well thats a bit overboard. Having an opinion is great but if its not expressed in a rational and reasonable way, then just keep it for yourself. I know that I wouldn’t like others telling me that my writing sucks (or even self-portraits are not good..because thats happened and its disrespectful), I wouldn’t want do it to someone else. We’re here in the blogosphere and we follow whoever else’s blogs because we appreciate and enjoy their writing and if you disagree with something and you know what you say is not going to be nice…just quietly close the window and move along. No need for disrespectful comments….

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    • Overboard is correct!! That sounds horrible about people commenting on your self-portraits, there really are some nasty people online, hiding behind their computers. No need for those disrespectful comments I agree, closing down windows and moving on is the solution! Thanks for sharing Kim 🙂

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  38. The post in question was misguided, to be sure. I’m sure he started out with decent intentions, but then didn’t realize that the combination of sour grapes in his intro and detailed critiques in his voting explanations would combine to come across poorly.

    There’s a lot of other ways to show respect or disrespect of course. For one, it should be easy to hit the “like” button when you read a post, period. Whether you comment or not, that’s an easy way to show your respect for the author. Something I feel is disrespectful is linking to your own posts on someone elses work. I dont care how germaine it is to the subject, I’m sure the author isn’t looking for homework assignments, or reading obligations when they write. It’s also not the place to pimp your work! Show some respect!

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    • I would agree with that linking thing about 90% of the time. I am willing to let it slide if it really contributes to the conversation or if that person is a regular reader/commenter. Best thing to do is ask about a link, if someone mentions they have a review or an article I will usually tell them to post the link in the comments if they ask nice.

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      • I have totally been guilty of this on your site Adam, but only when it pertains to the topic at hand. Unless it was about Piranhaconda…because everyone needs to know about that film 🙂

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    • Yeah, you know, maybe if it was posted on April Fools, or a huge FOOLED YOU banner then I would brush it off, but it came across very poorly.

      I ‘like’ a lot of posts, even if I dont comment, precisely for the reason you said. To show the author respect, and to let them know that I read their work. Not a huge fan of people leaving links. I dont mind if its for a video, or from someone who I would class as a regular, but otherwise I delete them straight away. Definitely not a place for others to pimp their work lol!! Cheers Fogs 🙂

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      • Cheers Tyson. Whopper of a thread you’ve got going here btw 😉

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        • I know, lucky I posted on my day off! Not only a lot of comments to reply to, everyone is typing a lot of thoughts and long comments, so I need to show my appreciation! 🙂

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  39. Tyson, it’s funny because I felt like this year’s LAMMYs were lacking the drama of last year’s odd behavior, but I guess it’s going to happen in any type of competition. People feel strongly that their blog is superior and don’t understand why others are getting more acclaim and readership. This is short-sighted thinking and disregards the fact that we’re all still learning and evolving as writers and movie lovers. Few are doing this for any type of money or career purposes, so it’s a passion project.

    Sure, there are different levels of quality, but a lot depends on what people want to see in a blog. Some are looking for in-depth, intellectual discussions of classics or indie films, while others want quick coverage of new blockbusters. What’s great about the blogging community is the diversity of opinions and interests. If you’re interested in basically anything, there’s going to be someone who shares that excitement. It’s great to have different opinions and strong debates, but respect is the key like you mention. I’ve only had a few cases where a commenter approached the line, but even then it never got into personal attacks.

    I’m really interested to check out this post for a few different reasons. First of all, I’m selfishly curious about what criticism this person would level at my site. Also, I’m amazed that someone would take the time to visit the nominees and try to take them down. There’s no way for that person not to look like an idiot in this situation. Even if the points are valid, what is the purpose of doing so? It might get a few hits, but the people being covered will never come back.

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    • What happened last year? New to all this. 🙂

      Great comment there Dan, sums it all up perfectly. Diversity of opinions and interests is the best thing, and sharing our passion with like minded people is part of the charm & fun.

      I don’t think you got any criticism as such, I cant really remember. Was looking and reading with rage lol. But yep, will never be going back. Thanks very much 🙂

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      • Last year, there was a bit of a scuffle among the classic film bloggers of what was really a “classic film” blog. There was also a negative reaction from some bloggers to both the nominations podcast and one video announcing a winner. Both caused changes in how things are done this year, so there was a positive side to it. If you’re curious, there’s a really long thread in the forums from 2012 that covered all the concerns.

        I did take a look at the post, and I think the worst thing he said was that my writing was boring. Nothing too nasty on that end. I do see that others weren’t so lucky, though. Sigh.

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        • Really? Sounds a bit mad, I’ll try hunt down those threads, cheers for the heads up.

          Apologies for not replying with the link, glad you found it. Lucky you 😉

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  40. Tracy I added you to the list of people who must die as soon as you said you disliked Drive. 🙂

    I am not against disagreeing with someone’s review of a film but I usually go with I think I liked this a bit more than you or it seems you enjoyed it a bit more than I did. Or something along those lines.

    Admittedly, I have been suckered in a few times by folks, on FB,Twitter, or our blog into contentious debates about topics. However, I have tried to remember that you can’t fight stupid and that the internets is filled with trolls. The best way to turn those trolls to stone is to ignore or block or unfriend them.

    Good topic Tyson

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  41. Just thought of something I am guilty of. I sometimes forget that not every blog is a fan of salty sailor talk. Not that I am dropping a lot of F-bombs but I sometimes do a lot of reading and commenting after a few pints. 😉

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  42. Respeck is where it’s at. We’re all in this blogging game/world together, you gotta support each other. Sure, you may not like a certain individual or think they don’t put in the time they should when it comes to trading views/comments, but you should never cross that line. The person you’re talking about insulted me, specifically, way too many times and I just sat by. Glad you didn’t mention who it was, because I never responded on the same fact that I don’t want to feed the troll.

    That being said, I respect you so hard Tyson. SO HARD.

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    • I hear you, great to support each other, makes it all so much more rewarding. I felt pissed off for you reading it, he was bang out of line. I couldnt link it, and you showed more restraint than me by not responding. You had every right to tear him a new one, but held back. RESPECT 🙂

      I appreciate you respecting me hard dude. So much appreciation going on here 🙂

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  43. I read a lot of reviews that I have a personal view on I may disagree with the opinion i may not feel the quality of writing is any good but its not my place to criticise. If people want feedback they will ask for it. I asked for feedback from several colleagues in the blogosphere recently. I received honest feedback and some very encouraging feedback but none derogatory or hurtful. My job requires me to give feedback and coaching everyday and it is never negative, there should be no such thing as negative feedback. Ignore the idiots their agenda is totally incompatible with the genuine good folk who work And write hard often just as hobbies on top of a hard working day like me

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    • Did my derogatory feedback not reach you? I’ll re-send it 😉

      Great feedback, and I can see you give talks like this at work, such a calm manner! Thanks Kev, much appreciated dude.

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      • naaaa, must have missed that 😉 I do, the big boot just doesn’t cut it these days, business is more subtle should we say. always welcome Tyson, good man!

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        • My wife is the business brain. I’m a simple warehouse guy these days, I couldn’t cope! Although I’m sure we’d get along if you were my boss. Both support the right team for a start 😉

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  44. Wow, you really hit a nerve on this one! I have told off, sort of, people who intentionally insulted me — not disagreed with me, there being a clear difference — on my site. I have said I will be insulted. My site is not a public board and if I don’t like your tone or attitude, you’re gone. I have also very occasionally tried oh so gently to tell someone they are over the top and need to pull back on the rhetoric.She got the message and decided it was time to take it down a few notches. I personally like her, but she needed to step back and breathe.

    If I don’t like a blog, I don’t read it. If I don’t like a commentor, I do not welcome him or her. But it hasn’t been much of a problem. My commentors have sometimes been a trifle long-winded and occasionally wildly off-topic (a different but equally knotty problem). Most people have been at worst annoying, but not actively mean-spirited. I’ve gotten into some long, complex arguments about religion, but no one insulted anyone. We disagreed and did a lot of source quoting to make our points (I can’t resist that stuff either) and probably beat the subject to death, but without name calling or personal invective.

    You see the worst stuff on Facebook. I expect better of people in our world.

    I have a related question: I have a friend, a writer. She is the sweetest woman …. and the worst writer I’ve ever read. Her books are atrocious. I cannot bear to tell her. No one can who knows her, though she’s gotten some reviews that might have given her a hint that all is not entirely well. What does one do with that? Especially when she wants a review and I cannot in any kind of conscience tell the truth? So far, I’ve wriggled out of it. I don’t want to hurt her, but I can’t outright lie. Sooner or later this is going to come to a head and I’m sure I will wind up losing a friend and I so much want to avoid it. What can one do?

    I suspect this is one of those things that sooner or later comes to us all: a fellow blogger is very nice. And very bad at what they are trying to do. How do YOU handle it?

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    • NOT be insulted. I hate my typos. Argh.

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    • Definite difference between disagreeing and insulting – shame some people can’t tell them apart. Great points you bring up there Marilyn, nice to see how you run things, thank you! 🙂

      As for your friend. Wow, tricky one indeed. Such a tough position for you to be in, as much as you want to be honest your friend may not appreciate it. But, maybe she would prefer to hear it from you rather than a stranger who may not be as respectful with their words. No way you can point out a few positives for her and then mention the bits you don’t like? Or is it all terrible? I do not envy your choice, but thats how I’d do it. Honest but sweeten the deal with some positives if possible 🙂

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  45. garryarmstrong

     /  May 2, 2013

    GREAT post on respect!! You certainly struck a nerve judging by the volume of responses. I’ve always had a problem with over the top, irrational, ignorant, vicious and just plain disrespectful folks who spew their venom on social network sites including blogs. I have a pretty fair sense of humor but there a times when people go too far. I’m glad you took the time to write this and hope some people get what you are saying.

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    • Yeah, fantastic response and great to see how people approach this blogging world. I’m all for sarcasm and senses of humour, but some people can go too far. Thanks for stopping by Garry 🙂

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  46. Well Said, Tyson. Respect is the biggest thing that separates the blogging community from the rest of the internet, and it’s something that can’t be thrown to the wind for a few extra likes or comments. The entire premise for my site is that film is an art form, and therefore there are no absolutely right or wrong opinions. Sure you can support your thoughts on a movie with analysis and facts, but at the end of the day you always have to remember that the person across the digital aisle from you is a different viewer who wants and expects different things out of a movie.

    Great post 🙂

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    • Thanks Andy. Spot on, no right or wrong with opinions and we all see things differently and take different bits away from movies. Thats a nice approach to have on your site, clearly working for you. Cheers buddy 🙂

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  47. I see no reason to critisize anyone’s work (writing style/choice of subjects/opinion) in a public forum such as this one. Even simple grammar mistakes are often overlooked when 1st posting something, then I find and correct them days later. Mistakes in facts are fine to point out (one time I listed the wrong director for a film) but in a nice way please. If there is a serious suggestion for making someone’s blog better, I think other bloggers should contact them by email (my email is on my contact page).

    It is quite fine to have a different opinion about a film and express it, one blogger to another, without insulting the other blogger. Variety is what makes the world go round. I always said, if we all had the same opinion, there would be only one movie release each month and we would all go and see it and love it – and there would be no reason to have any other movies (or books, or music). I’d say, if you want to disagree with someone’s opinion about something, there’s always a nicer way to do it – too strong and it seems like an attack.

    When it comes to critisizing films, it is different. Studios are asking for money for their product and people have the right to know what others think before they spend their money. I spend a lot of money on entertainment (and have wasted a good percentage on crap!). If I feel like I was ripped off, duped, or treated like a dumb consumer, I will express that opinion.

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    • I always find mistakes I’ve made. Damn dyslexia. I’d be happy for people to point glaring mistakes out, but as long as its polite and civil. Very true about there just being one movie if we all wanted the same thing. No worries at all with people disagreeing, and we should all expect it as reviewers. Theres just a way to do it, and it looks like all these comments show 99.9% of us feel the same.

      I too have watched more than my fair share of crappy movies, and even when I hate something I appreciate some people may find some good in it that they could take away from watching it.

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts buddy 🙂

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  48. I love how you started with him/her but then started writing him haha xD

    Interesting post, I have never got bad feedback on my blog, because I moderate comments haha xD

    But generally people are really nice around my blog, you know how I comment and I don’t think I have ever been serious when commenting on peoples reviews. Normally I just try and make jokes, bring laughter to peoples lives mwahahaha xD

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    • Yeah, I did try make a little joke with that. 😉

      Moderating comments ftw! I have no issues on here, its just the devious ones doing it on their own blogs that I would have missed if it wasnt for one person making me aware. Probably someone insulting you weekly somewhere. If not I’ll start doing it 😉

      Cheers Tim

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  49. Simple rule of thumb for any content provider: Any given day could be someone’s first day seeing your work. Don’t do something that’ll make it their last as well.

    I didn’t get any nominations on the final Lammy ballot either. So what? I’m not fragile enough to believe that this is somehow a negative reflection on my blog or the voters. Better luck next year, and all that. All this jackanapes is doing is dooming their blog to obscurity after one brief moment of notoriety. They might get a lot of traffic for a few days, but when Lammy season is gone, so is all their traffic — for good.

    If someone is being just plain irrational, there’s no point in trying to discuss things with them; just walk away and be done with it. But as long as they’re rational, it’s always possible to have a reasonable discussion, even with strong disagreement. There’s no need for insults. I’ve had a few posts where people have disagreed strongly with one or more things I’ve said. So far it’s always been polite; I haven’t had to delete a non-spam post or ban a user even once the whole time I’ve been blogging. And considering that in my forum-moderator days I was known as a pretty prolific wielder of the ban-hammer — and on one occasion the ban-tactical-nuke — I think that’s a strong sign that the community as a whole is pretty level-headed.

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    • Perfect comment, love that Morgan. Kind of wish this is how I wrote my post. Damn you 🙂

      Can’t really add anything to this, I agree 100% and if anyone is taking anything away from this Question, your post is the template for how people should act. Thank you! 🙂

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  50. Yeah, same here. I sometimes disagree with other people and I tell them respectfully but I’d never bash their work.

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  51. As a point of reference, I made a similar post where I took a look at all of my possible competitors in the genre category during the submission stages. While not all of my comments were positive, I did my best to be respectful of their sites and name myself as little as possible in comparison. The post in question is so self absorbed it actually borders on parody and if they claimed at the end of the article that they weren’t being serious I would have believed it. And yet it reads as 100% genuine. In my opinion, criticism should never be given unless asked for, or at the very least be combined with something positive. If you don’t like something, just don’t read it, there’s no need to draw attention to it.

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    • Yeah, I saw your posts, much more respectful way of doing it. As I said to Fogs further up, if that was the case I would of believed it was a joke too. Yet it really is like their gospel version of facts. Mental.

      Cheers Bubba 🙂

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  52. Respect… Like I respect your opinion even more after seeing The Innkeepers. 🙂

    At this point, I’m not sure what I can say that hasn’t been said, but I agree with everything you’ve said. Personally, I have nothing but respect for other bloggers’ opinions. I love the blogging community because there seems to be mutual respect between everyone.

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    • I assume you already respected it like 99% but that pushed you over the edge?! 😉

      I know, everyone has said everything way better than I could, so many great insights. Cheers Garrett 🙂

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  53. Tom

     /  May 3, 2013

    What a great post — I honestly think that is one of the silliest things I’ve ever heard, a fellow blogger trolling on other people’s sites. And you’re completely right, that person’s doing it for the negative attention…because, hey ,at least negative attention is attention of some kind. . . Here’s my view on this: I’ve definitely been known to piss and moan and whine about some things but I usually keep them to my own page (suffice it to say this mainly pertains to the wonderful world of Facebook, we all know how much that website reflects our actual world and reality) but to actually go and lash out on movie review blogs and websites just goes beyond stupid. I’ve never felt the need to stoop to that level (perhaps this person did, and well. . . word. . . )

    But I feel like people don’t do that just because they’re not happy with the attention they are or are not receiving: they just like doing shit like that to wind people up. For that reason, it’s more important to outright ignore them. There’s a big difference between openly and honestly responding to constructive criticism on a page, and flat-out going to someone’s page and posting insults in the comment box. The latter is just a matter of boredom, and these people are not worth worrying about all that much.

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    • I just wanted to scope out how other people felt about this, and the response has been overwhelming but crystal clear. No one seems to appreciate people trash talking their sites, and hopefully its a rare thing.

      Thanks for the comment, much appreciated and wise words Tom! 🙂

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  54. Tom

     /  May 3, 2013

    Btw consider this page added to my ReBlog section on DSB

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  55. Great question. I always try to comment with respect on others’ blogs even when I disagree with them, though I know I’ve gotten into a few debates. Once I got a nasty comment from a guy who complained about a post I wrote about Ricky Gervais though.

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    • That comment might have been from me. If you don’t like him it more than likely was, I love Gervais!

      Thanks dude 🙂

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      • I’m a huge fan of Gervais as well. Loved his skewering at the Golden Globes, but one commenter thought otherwise.

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  56. Don’t know who you’re talking about, but it doesn’t really matter. Not sure what the Lammys are all about, but that doesn’t really matter either. I completely agree with you on your take of the situation. Keep up the entertaining posts!

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    • LOL – nice one buddy, thanks!!

      (Lammys are movie blog awards, 1600 members or so voting)

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      • Well, potentially 1600 people could be voting, looking at the LAMB forums though the actual number is actually a lot lower (which I think is a shame).

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      • Hahaha, sorry bout that Tyson 🙂 I wish more people would be a lot more active. It seems a lot of bloggers only sign up in order to get more views and leave it at that (at least that’s the feeling I have about it)

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        • Lol no worries. I know what you mean, I always assumed the forum would be filled with people chatting and sharing sites, but I found people left a link and that was it. Aside from a few core members, deserves to be more active.

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    • Maybe you should do a future Question Time about it why people sign up and use it (or don’t)…since you have a big community responding it might give some insight….

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  57. I think that bloggers must give respect where respect is due…meaning that we should earn respect based on how we interact with others in the community and the content that we share on our blogs. There are bloggers who deserve respect and others who still have their work cut out for them. That said, the matter that you are addressing here is a classic case of a hater who is trying to bring attention to himself or herself by pouring all of his or her sour grapes out into the blogosphere.

    Since our time is short, it’s not worthwhile to waste any of it giving energy to people who would rather throw shade at others than taking their loss in stride and moving on to better things such as improving their blog or maybe finding a way to put themselves in a position to possibly be nominated next year. I understand that whatever this person wrote bothers you and possibly also bothers other LAMMY nominated bloggers, but LAMMY or no LAMMY…there are bloggers in every sector (fashion, writing, celebrity, real estate, tech & gadgets, food, etc.) who bring nothing constructive to the table and post flaming stuff about other bloggers — probably because they have nothing better to do. I for one don’t have time to be bothered by folks like that, because there are more important things going on — both in the world and in the blogosphere — to worry about that type of behavior and nonsense.

    I voted for YOU (Yay! 🙂 Be Proud)…in all of the categories that you were nominated in — and I’m not even a fan of horror films, go figure! In fact, they are among my least favorite genres (I just don’t dig them) but I still voted for you because I like your blog due to your weekly features and your interaction with the community, among other things. It sucks when people post bad things or say bad things about you, yes, but just chalk it up to the fact that haters are gonna hate. Ignore them, and keep it moving. That’s the best you (and all of the other LAMMY nominees) can do because at the end of the day, you and the rest of the nominees are the ones in the running for the LAMMYs…not some blogger who is talking crap about people’s blogs, just trying to draw attention to himself or herself. It’s sad.

    I do believe that there is a general code or level of respect that all bloggers should be given no matter who they are or what they write about because it’s just like being offline — there is a matter of courtesy that should be given to your fellow man or woman — it’s just about having good manners and being raised well enough to know that being disrespectful to people who didn’t do anything wrong to you is just outright awful.

    Just enjoy your LAMMY experiences (the good ones), keep doing what you do and cheer for your fellow nominees. All of the “disrespect” that any blogger tries to throw your way is just nothing but noise. Tune it out.

    ~Nicole

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    • Wow, epic post Nicole. THANKYOU – for this and the votes, obviously. Nothing to add really, you summed it all up perfectly 🙂

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  58. What a dickish thing to do. Its fine to disagree with someone’s opinion but to openly criticize them on your own blog is bad. Us bloggers work really hard on our sites and we do it because we love movies. If you don’t like someone’s writing and feel you can offer some constructive criticism then contact them privately

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  59. Awesome post! I agree with you wholeheartedly. I feel that everyone is entitled to an opinion (and I am an extremely opinionated person), BUT one needs to always remember that one’s opinion is NOT always the only opinion, and not the superior one, though one may feel that way. So voice your thoughts, but really, just be respectful towards others and their feelings that is all that is really important. So sorry someone bashed you, that was unnecessary, I really enjoy your site!

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    • Very good point, people forget opinions arent facts. No worries, people got worse than me. All undeserved obviously! Thanks Zoe 🙂

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      • I really think that that was completely rude of the unnamed douche. If you don’t like it, skip it. If you have an opinion, be nice about it, let them know. Oh well. Apparently manners are no longer tantamount in society.

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        • Hopefully these instances are exceptions. Hence why I made this post to see what people felt and had experienced themselves. Everyone here has been amazing and so insightful. I hope I managed to reply to everyone 🙂

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  60. This unnamed person sounds like a Grade A jerk.

    I have never had someone be rude when commenting on my blog so I am lucky in that regard. I would like to think that if it happened, those who read and comment on my blog would let them know it wasn’t cool in no uncertain terms. I love it when people disagree with my opinions and let me know in the comments. And luckily they always have been so far.

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    • This was on his own blog…..but still, the jerk bit was right 😉

      Fingers crossed you keep things the way they are and have no issues with your site buddy. Thanks for commenting 🙂

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  61. I guess if someone commented on my blog on their own post good or bad, that would actually mean you cared enough to read it…..ha ha..little joke there..I haven’t had any critique I couldn’t handle because I for one as a writer seek it. I tend to ignore any destructive or ignorant spouting off. People who tend to do that do better job than I ever could at making themselves looking bad….kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy or karma if you will. Whoever did what you said they did is immature and probably jealous of other people’s success if it is not his own more or less. Good luck with next year’s awards and get ready for more haters because unfortunately they will always be there in the corner sulking.

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  62. Sorry to hear someone attacked your site, that’s taking the LAMMYs too far. I’ve not had that happen myself. Look on the bright side, those bad experiences are in the minority. You have 200 comments, so that’s pretty good medicine 🙂

    Sadly it’s very easy for someone to be rude online anonymously. I have comment moderation, so that’s helpful. I had to respectfully object to a comment, when someone dissed a movie that’s not even been released yet :/

    I don’t do it often, but I have pointed out a typo, if the writer has got a name wrong, but it’s only so the overall quality of the article is improved, for the benefit of everyone. In fact I hardly ever do that, because I prefer to talk about the contents of the article.

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    • This wasn’t just a back patting exercise, but I’m astounded at all the comments. Obviously a strong subject for people. Which it should be 🙂

      I’d be happy for people to point out grammar or info errors, as you say it makes the author look better in the long run!

      Cheers Chris 🙂

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  63. Paul S

     /  May 3, 2013

    Even though I’m not a member of The Lamb and therefore have no input in The Lammy Awards I’ve been quietly fascinated by your article and the response to it.
    Respect to you and all the commentators for providing the most interesting content I’ve read in a long time!

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  64. I try to be tactful as best as I can when people leave comments and I even go as far as not really blasting my opinion back to them if I feel negative towards it. I try to make my remark as positive as I can even if I feel like they left something or said something negative. We do this blogging thing for fun and it should stay that way. Too much to worry about in the world for me to take a complete post like the unnamed blogger did when he blasted everyone on the LAMB. By the way, your site, the bees knees – just saying. Nice post. Keep it up.

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  65. My two friends and I began writing reviews for each other a few years ago, for fun, and decided to make a website to share the reviews with family and other friends…and if others in the stratosphere wanted to take a look, that was fine with us. I find it strange that people would be hostile or start raging debates over someone’s like or dislike of a particular movie…there is no right or wrong if you like or dislike a movie! When I write a review I try to make it interesting and fun, and maybe give the reader a clue as to whether they might like to check it out or not. To have someone make negative comments or attack me for that would be disturbing, to say the least, and completely uncalled for.

    So far, the few ‘outsiders’ who’ve visited our site have been totally cool and cooperative (including you, Tyson, and we thank you for that), and have had fun with our reviews…reviews which are in no way meant to be righteous or controversial. To be negative or attack-happy just doesn’t make sense to us. And I follow those same rules when I visit someone else’s site, and make comments there: I’m not out to prove a point, make a statement, tell someone they’re wrong, or ridicule a review. I just like having good, constructive conversations with other film lovers. Especially those who have a shared disregard for ‘Silver Linings Playbook’…

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    • Always enjoy reading your work Todd. Thank you for joining in this discussion my friend, and glad we’re on the same page for once. Unlike your incorrect Silver Linings feelings……. 🙂

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  66. Popcorn Nights

     /  May 8, 2013

    Wow, I just read through the post and all the comments. Have not read the post in question but it’s always a shame to read about that kind of thing. Keep up the good work here Tyson!

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